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Student Liaison Report from September 2004 MFC Meeting
by Rev. Rosemary Lloyd

In December 2003, I met with the MFC in Berkeley, California. Like you, I had spent many, many weeks compiling my packet, completing the reading list, and, frankly, worrying about how I would do at my interview.

I confess to several restless nights, heart palpitations and sweaty palms as the big day approached. On the day of the interview I scheduled some diverting activities in the morning, lunch with my husband and a good friend, and half an hour of quiet meditation just before going in. In that quiet I acknowledged to myself that everything I had done until that moment was preparation for the interview I was about to have. Indeed, all my life was preparation for my vocation. I was already a minister. Now, I told myself, I’m going to meet my colleagues and engage with them about the ideas, history and questions that are central to my work and life now. (My palms were still quite damp.)

After the interview I reflected on how truly valuable the entire candidating process had been. It had been an opportunity for me to delve deeply into my personal history, spiritual development, theology, call, and hope for my ministry and my chosen faith. All this work had been my privilege. If only I had had such a positive attitude during all that reading and writing! I share this wisdom-in-retrospect in the hope that you may begin reminding yourself—now—that you are engaged in the process of your formation, and to embrace it as such with gratitude.

Enough preaching. Allow me to share some reflections that may be of help as you prepare for your important interview with the MFC.

  • You’ve heard it before: know your self—and be your self. The members of the committee are prepared to welcome committed, knowledgeable, self-aware, mature ministers into the ranks of fellowship. This does not mean perfect people. It means men and women who have insight into their gifts and strengths and growing edges. Let the minister in you shine through. The committee is not looking for cookie cutter ministers. Their gold standard is authenticity and integrity in your unique ministerial presence.
  • Know your packet. The materials you submit are a reflection of your preparation, performance and potential. The members of the committee know you only through this material. If there seem to be gaps in your preparation, evaluations that highlight your growing edges, or suggestions from the RSCC on how you might address your personal or ministerial development, know it and own it, and be prepared to answer questions about how you have responded to recommendations. The committee is interested in hearing how you have grown over the years it has taken you to prepare for your ministry.
  • Know history and the UUA. You are seeking membership in an organization that has a distinct and distinguished history. Read what is required and integrate it as best you can into your knowledge base. Strive to understand how the UUA is organized and to what it is committed. In particular, grasp the importance of our commitment to the work and ideals of anti-racism and anti-oppression and be prepared to speak to your understanding, practice and commitment.
  • The sermon. This is a fine opportunity to share elements of your personal odyssey towards Unitarian Universalist ministry, to articulate your passion and compassion, or to inspire and minister to the committee. Ten minutes is what is asked for, and all that you ought to give. Before your sermon, a member of the committee will light a chalice; consider demonstrating your worship skills by having some chalice words prepared to share.
  • First question. This one’s for you. It is your chance to set a tone, to let your personality shine through a natural nervousness. Was there a problem that cropped up in CPE? This could be a good opportunity to move the issue off the table. Is there something you felt wasn’t fully expressed in your packet? Prepare a question that gives you another chance. You might also formulate a question that allows you to demonstrate your excitement or knowledge about a specific issue or subject. It’s really up to you.
  • Nobody’s perfect. So don’t try to fake it. Study, reflect, write, prepare. But if a question arises that you simply cannot answer, be honest and graceful enough to say so, and address how you will enhance your knowledge as you move forward in your ministry.
  • Study group. Months before you appear before the MFC, consider creating or joining a collegial study group to keep one another on schedule for gathering and submitting your evaluations, recommendations, essays, and competencies. Challenge one another in areas of history, UUA organization, anti-racisim/anti-oppression principles and practices, and world religions. Invite area ministers and knowledgeable lay people to help you conduct a “mock” MFC process—including practicing your sermon.
  • Trust the process. I was deeply impressed by the compassion, generosity and integrity of the members of the MFC panel I observed. Having begun each day with worship, the committee was spiritually grounded and awaited each candidate with hope. When questions about a candidate’s readiness arose, the committee wrestled with their concerns about the added time and money that might have to be invested to fulfill certain requirements. They strove for and reached consensus after careful discernment, thoughtfully and compassionately balancing their concerns for the candidates, their ministries, and the UU movement. Remember that a “3,” however disappointing in the moment, is a validation that the committee does see a minister in the candidate—a candidate who is being given the opportunity to develop in ways that will serve that minister and her future ministry.

May your journey toward ministry be one of self-discovery and joy,
and may you long serve truth and justice in love,

Rosemary Lloyd

Liaison to Students Report, September 2004
Jackie Clement

I know from my own experience of appearing before the Ministerial Fellowship Committee that it is a process cloaked in myth and mystery, not of their making but growing out of our own anxiety. Seeing the Committee evaporated many of the myths for me, but having now sat with them through the preparation, interviews and discussions I hope I can dispel some of the myths for you, too.

The Committee is truly rooting for the candidates. They are compassionate and collegial, and will do whatever they can to help you through this important and nerve-wracking experience. They know that many (most? all?) of us are nervous to at least some degree, and sincerely try to create an atmosphere that will ease the tension. They worry about the height and placement of the pulpit and whether fresh water is available. They provide chalice and flowers and an altar covering to create a welcoming atmosphere. They do not scowl or sit stone-faced through the sermon as I had heard so many times during my seminary years. The members are concerned with your well-being, just as they are tasked with looking after the well-being of our ministry.

The MFC would like to know that you have a good foundation in the areas of competence, but are not looking to trip you up on minutiae. If you do not know the answer to a question, you might simply say so. If you know where you might find the answer all the better, but repeating memorized data is not the point of the interview. They are far more interested in your presence, self-awareness and self-presentation. I therefore offer these words of advice.

Before the interview prepare your packet carefully and know its contents. I was surprised in my own interview by the number of questions drawn directly from my packet, my experiences and evaluations. This continued to be true for the interviews I witnessed. Know the material in your packet, understand why you wrote what you did and why others wrote what they did, and be able to discuss it. In your paperwork and during the interview be open and honest. Know yourself. Be able to acknowledge your gifts and not hide from your challenges. If you have certain reactions to stress (like forgetting every fact you ever learned!), you can share that with the Committee. They will not fault you for being nervous, but will applaud your self-awareness. Monitor how you are feeling during the interview and if you feel there is something the Committee should know, share it with them. Acknowledge where you are physically, emotionally, spiritually.

Remember you are there to show them a potential minister. The members of the MFC work harder than just about anyone I have seen. Whatever you can do to make them comfortable, as they try to make you comfortable, will reflect well on your ministerial skills. Remember in writing your sermon that they are people with their own joys and sorrows and triumphs and struggles. Try to be aware of the cues they present you about whether your answers are too long, too short or just right. Remember that this is a team process, not an adversarial one.

I wish you all the best in your interview. It is an important moment in our ministerial preparation, part of the whole, not an end in itself. May you gain from it all that you can.


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